Lady Lee
My mother is the same - is right handed but throws a baseball left-handed
Can your mother throw a football? A few teams (like the cowboys) might be interested.
throws left-handed, but is actually right-handed..
ruff-ruff!!!
syl.
Lady Lee
My mother is the same - is right handed but throws a baseball left-handed
Can your mother throw a football? A few teams (like the cowboys) might be interested.
the greatest of love and peace to you!.
unfortunately, i am unable to respond to your comment on another thread, but since i believe it merits some attention, i would like to do so here, if you will indulge me.
in jewish belief the 'devil' is different than what christians have been taught.
Like I said, a trip down to the ol Synagogue will shed some important light on these issues.
I could say the same thing about a trip to Church to, we both would need the "right" one. Jews are/have been as (if not more) divided as Christians.
Hillel worte the Golden Rule, Ben Zoma and Bar Kappara wrote the essential lesson of the Shema was to live a good life and be blessed, Akiba ben Joseph wrote Love thy Neighbor.
You could attribute those sayings to whom ever you like, Christ was the only person, to perfectly live those things out.
One of the many pleasant surprises and many Aha moments in studying Judaism was to see how the Jewish Sages had been the source of so many things attributed to Jesus, and to highlight where this Jesus figure has some very un-Jewish ideas, strange for a person claiming to be a Jew.
Wasn't that the point? Jesus came to show them where they had gone wrong. I'm sure Jesus thought the "Jews" of his day were not very "Jewish" (or scriptural). He said as much.
From his perspective I'm sure many of the Jews of today wouldn't seem very Jewish and I'm sure many sects of Judaism of that day, would agree with him.
the greatest of love and peace to you!.
unfortunately, i am unable to respond to your comment on another thread, but since i believe it merits some attention, i would like to do so here, if you will indulge me.
in jewish belief the 'devil' is different than what christians have been taught.
Paul especially seems ignorant of these enlightened Sages, his anit-semetic rants spell trouble and smack of the worst forms of elitism.
Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision; 3 for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
It looks to me like you're just mad because Paul beat you to it.
the greatest of love and peace to you!.
unfortunately, i am unable to respond to your comment on another thread, but since i believe it merits some attention, i would like to do so here, if you will indulge me.
in jewish belief the 'devil' is different than what christians have been taught.
Certainly 'Paul' whoever that was seems obilvious to these central tenants of his Faith.
His faith... or yours? Paul gives his backround.
Php 3:2
Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision; 3 for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh, 4 although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: 5circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; 6 as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
designs
Answering that question wouldn't settle anything. What YOU fail to see or understand is any answer I (or anyone else) would give you outside of what the bible says, is pure speculation. These things are fine to talk about, and answers found may help some to understand, but these issues don't change what is written.
So go ahead and make fun if you must, it's just not going to change anything.
Gentile Church ruled by Bishops who were trying to remake a Jewish Messiah into something else.
The only problem with this view is, the early church were mostly Jews. Paul was a Jew and was most influential in defining most of the ideas the church still holds to today.
I'm also a bit puzzled by your belief that a Rabi today would necessarily agree with Rabbis at the time of the early church, when there is such disagreement today among themselves as to the nature of God.
this is a common scripture, but i find it interesting that it is in direct conflict to jw belief.
john 2:19 says, "jesus answered them, "destroy this temple, and i will raise it again in three days.
" the jews replied, "it has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?
What is your conclusion? Did God raise Jesus from the dead? Or did Jesus raise himself?
According to the bible, sense Jesus is God...
all of the above.
this is a common scripture, but i find it interesting that it is in direct conflict to jw belief.
john 2:19 says, "jesus answered them, "destroy this temple, and i will raise it again in three days.
" the jews replied, "it has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?
TAI
Don't forget:
John 10:17
"For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again. 18"No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father."
we all understand the justice argument against hell: the idea that god might decide that a wicked person's sins merit everlasting conscious punishment offends our sense of justice.. do even hitler's sins merit never-ending conscious punishment for all eternity?.
we know that the wtbts takes an annihilationist view of the "everlasting" punishment described by the bible.. they teach that there is no separate "soul" or "spirit" that survives physical death and that the ultimate fate of the unrepentant wicked is annihilation by jehovah.. let's assume for the sake of argument that they are right.. is this justice?.
over the years, the wtbts has flip-flopped on whether or not these wicked people will be resurrected for purposes of judgment or whether they simply will remain dead with no hope of any sort of resurrection.. let's look at various possibilities.
Would be twisting the scriptures to apply the torment listed here to others.
I'm applying it to ME, it's what I deserve. You can do like the WT if you like. Nothing bad ever applies to them.
the only thing god can know for certain, is what we know for certain:.
we think, so we know we exist.. .
God made the "Matrix".
we all understand the justice argument against hell: the idea that god might decide that a wicked person's sins merit everlasting conscious punishment offends our sense of justice.. do even hitler's sins merit never-ending conscious punishment for all eternity?.
we know that the wtbts takes an annihilationist view of the "everlasting" punishment described by the bible.. they teach that there is no separate "soul" or "spirit" that survives physical death and that the ultimate fate of the unrepentant wicked is annihilation by jehovah.. let's assume for the sake of argument that they are right.. is this justice?.
over the years, the wtbts has flip-flopped on whether or not these wicked people will be resurrected for purposes of judgment or whether they simply will remain dead with no hope of any sort of resurrection.. let's look at various possibilities.
TAI
You are trying to twist scriptures to say what they don't say.
I guess you never stopped to THINK ABOUT why Jesus used two different words.
Check out the Greek in Mat10:28
απολεσαι G622
αποκτεινοντων G615
Nothing you refered too speaks of eternal torment in a hellfire.
Nothing but the rest of the bible. like Rev 14:11